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Nathan B's avatar

I like your work. Are you sure Homer and that era didn’t have a deeper understanding of human ethics than their ideas of political power? My understanding of the story of Gilgamesh is a deep human consciousness or ethics, rather than a simplified belief in political things like human power over other humans. That story I believe was well established by the time of Homer. Are we sure Homer was not offering a story of the consequentially of extreme human things. These stories that have been brought forward for many millennia seem to carry these fundamental ideas about humans rather than simply the human politics of the time.

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Hm. I think you’re right about a lot of this. Though as far as I remember the “early” composition of the alt-right, they didn’t care that much about Christianity: the parts that came out of the long tail of the New Atheism movement, especially the anti-Islam thread; Peter Thiel’s relationship with / influence by Rene Girard; interest in weird neopagan syncretic stuff by Dugin, etc. That quote from Spencer struck me as odd because I remember him being some kind of neopagan or atheist as well.

It’s definitely ideologically untenable to accept both the Homeric / Nietzschean position and Christianity, though I think the alt-righters (in the USA at least) are stuck doing so because the evangelical / religious right is absolutely fundamental to holding the Republican coalition together. So they have to make do, even though it doesn’t make sense.

I think that might also explain how much the right here has tried to hollow out Christianity into just being a series of right-coded political positions, like being anti-abortion and anti-trans, rather than a complete and coherent belief system.

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